"Did you 'enlightened' guys ever have any male influences in your lives in your formative years other than Phil Donahue?"

My Dad is now and always has been one of the most stand up guys I know. As a WW2 Marine, ex-logger, self-employed self-made millionare, he taught us to not be judgmental unless the person proves otherwise. He's been on his own since he was 13 yrs. old and at the age of 83, he's as accepting or more so then he ever was. All 8 of us kids feel very fortunate to have him as a father. Too bad you obviously didn't have a real man with big heart when you were growing up, Rory.
Maybe then you would not be the misguided, judgmental, bitter person that you present yourself to be on this forum.
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